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The decision of the Authority follows:
10 FLRA No. 23 UNITED STATES AIR FORCE, 2750TH AIR BASE WING HEADQUARTERS, AIR FORCE LOGISTICS COMMAND, WRIGHT-PATTERSON AIR FORCE BASE, OHIO Respondent and AMERICAN FEDERATION OF GOVERNMENT EMPLOYEES, LOCAL 1138, AFL-CIO Charging Party Case No. 5-CA-715 DECISION AND ORDER THE ADMINISTRATIVE LAW JUDGE ISSUED THE ATTACHED DECISION IN THE ABOVE-ENTITLED PROCEEDING FINDING THAT THE RESPONDENT HAD ENGAGED IN CERTAIN UNFAIR LABOR PRACTICES AS ALLEGED IN THE COMPLAINT, AND RECOMMENDING THAT IT CEASE AND DESIST THEREFROM AND TAKE CERTAIN AFFIRMATIVE ACTION. THE JUDGE FURTHER FOUND THAT THE RESPONDENT HAD NOT ENGAGED IN CERTAIN OTHER ALLEGED UNFAIR LABOR PRACTICES AND RECOMMENDED DISMISSAL OF THE COMPLAINT WITH RESPECT TO THEM. THEREAFTER, THE RESPONDENT FILED EXCEPTIONS TO THE JUDGE'S DECISION AND RECOMMENDED ORDER, AND THE GENERAL COUNSEL FILED EXCEPTIONS WITH RESPECT TO THE RECOMMENDED ORDER. PURSUANT TO SECTION 2423.29 OF THE AUTHORITY'S RULES AND REGULATIONS AND SECTION 7118 OF THE FEDERAL SERVICE LABOR-MANAGEMENT RELATIONS STATUTE (THE STATUTE), THE AUTHORITY HAS REVIEWED THE RULINGS OF THE JUDGE MADE AT THE HEARING AND FINDS THAT NO PREJUDICIAL ERROR WAS COMMITTED. THE RULINGS ARE HEREBY AFFIRMED. UPON CONSIDERATION OF THE JUDGE'S DECISION AND THE ENTIRE RECORD, THE AUTHORITY HEREBY ADOPTS THE JUDGE'S FINDINGS, CONCLUSIONS AND RECOMMENDATIONS, AS MODIFIED HEREIN. THE JUDGE RECOMMENDED DISMISSAL OF THE COMPLAINT AS TO MEETINGS BETWEEN EMPLOYEE PIERCE AND HER SUPERVISOR, COL. CHASON, ON MARCH 24 AND APRIL 9, 1980. THE RECORD FULLY SUPPORTS THE JUDGE'S RECOMMENDATIONS IN THIS REGARD AND, NOTING PARTICULARLY THE ABSENCE OF EXCEPTIONS THERETO, SUCH RECOMMENDATIONS ARE HEREBY ADOPTED. THE JUDGE ALSO FOUND THAT A MEETING BETWEEN PIERCE AND CHASON ON MAY 1, 1980, WAS A CONTINUATION OF AN INVESTIGATORY MEETING BETWEEN THEM WHICH BEGAN ON APRIL 22 BUT WAS INTERRUPTED SO THAT PIERCE COULD ARRANGE TO HAVE HER UNION REPRESENTATIVE PRESENT, AND, UNDER THE CIRCUMSTANCES, RESULTED IN A DENIAL OF HER PREVIOUS REQUEST FOR UNION REPRESENTATION CONTRARY TO THE REQUIREMENTS OF SECTION 7114(A)(2)(B). /1/ HE THEREFORE FOUND A VIOLATION OF SECTION 7116(A)(1) AND (8) OF THE STATUTE. /2/ THE AUTHORITY DISAGREES. AS FOUND BY THE JUDGE, THE APRIL 22 MEETING FOCUSED ON CHASON'S INQUIRY CONCERNING THE PROPRIETY OF PIERCE'S ABSENCE FROM HER DUTY STATION ON THE PREVIOUS DAY, AND WAS TERMINATED WHEN SHE REQUESTED UNION REPRESENTATION UPON BEING QUESTIONED. ON MAY 1, NOT HAVING HEARD FROM PIERCE, CHASON CALLED HER INTO HIS OFFICE AND ASKED HER TO READ ENTRIES HE HAD TYPED ON HER AIR FORCE FORM 971, ENTITLED "SUPERVISOR'S RECORD OF EMPLOYEE," AND OFFERED TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS SHE MIGHT HAVE REGARDING THOSE ENTRIES. CHASON DID NOT ASK FOR ANY DEFENSE TO THE NOTATIONS, NOR DID HE SOLICIT ANY INFORMATION FROM PIERCE. FURTHER, PIERCE DID NOT REQUEST UNION REPRESENTATION AT THAT MEETING. UNDER THE CIRCUMSTANCES, THE AUTHORITY FINDS THAT THE MAY 1 MEETING-- IN CONTRAST TO THE APRIL 22 INQUIRY-- WAS NOT AN "EXAMINATION . . . IN CONNECTION WITH AN INVESTIGATION" WITHIN THE MEANING OF SECTION 7114(A)(2)(B) SUCH AS WOULD ENTITLE PIERCE TO UNION REPRESENTATION UPON REQUEST. THUS, CONTRARY TO THE JUDGE'S INTERPRETATION OF THE UNDISPUTED FACTS, THE AUTHORITY FINDS THE EVIDENCE DOES NOT SUPPORT A FINDING THAT THE MAY 1 MEETING WAS A "CONTINUATION" OF THE INVESTIGATION OF APRIL 22, NOR DOES THE RECORD SUPPORT A FINDING THAT THE MAY 1 MEETING, STANDING ALONE, WAS AN EXAMINATION WITHIN THE MEANING OF SECTION 7114(A)(2)(B). THE MEETING OF MAY 1 WAS CONNECTED TO THIS EARLIER MEETING ONLY BY CHASON'S STATEMENT IN HIS MEMO OF MAY 1 REFERRING TO THE APRIL 22 REQUEST FOR UNION REPRESENTATION AND A NOTATION IN THAT MEMO THAT "I HAVE WAITED UNTIL TODAY FOR THE MEETING AND COULD WAIT NO LONGER TO BRING HER COUNSELING UP TO DATE." IN VIEW OF THE FACTS THAT NO INFORMATION WAS SOUGHT FROM PIERCE AT THE MAY 1 MEETING, AND THAT SHE WAS NOT ASKED TO MAKE ANY EXPLANATION OR DEFENSE OF HER ALLEGED PERFORMANCE DEFICIENCIES, IT IS CONCLUDED THAT THE MAY 1 MEETING WAS A COUNSELLING SESSION DURING WHICH SHE WAS MADE AWARE OF PERFORMANCE DEFICIENCIES WITHOUT BEING SOLICITED FOR ADDITIONAL INFORMATION, AND THUS WAS REMEDIAL RATHER THAN INVESTIGATORY IN NATURE. SEE INTERNAL REVENUE SERVICE, DETROIT, MICHIGAN, 5 FLRA NO. 53(1981); UNITED STATES DEPARTMENT OF TREASURY, INTERNAL REVENUE SERVICE, 8 FLRA NO. 72(1982). ACCORDINGLY, THE AUTHORITY CONCLUDES THAT THE RESPONDENT DID NOT VIOLATE SECTION 7116(A)(1) AND (8) OF THE STATUTE UNDER THE FOREGOING CIRCUMSTANCES, AND SHALL ORDER THAT THE COMPLAINT BE DISMISSED. ORDER IT IS HEREBY ORDERED THAT THE COMPLAINT IN CASE NO. 5-CA-715, BE, AND IT HEREBY IS, DISMISSED IN ITS ENTIRETY. ISSUED, WASHINGTON, D.C., SEPTEMBER 17, 1982 RONALD W. HAUGHTON, CHAIRMAN HENRY B. FRAZIER III, MEMBER LEON B. APPLEWHAITE, MEMBER FEDERAL LABOR RELATIONS AUTHORITY -------------------- ALJ$ DECISION FOLLOWS -------------------- DAVID W. KERBER, ESQ. FOR THE RESPONDENT SANDRA J. LEBOLD, ESQ. FOR THE GENERAL COUNSEL BEFORE: ALAN W. HEIFETZ ADMINISTRATIVE LAW JUDGE DECISION STATEMENT OF THE CASE THIS PROCEEDING AROSE PURSUANT TO THE FEDERAL SERVICE LABOR-MANAGEMENT RELATIONS STATUTE, 5 U.S.C. 7101 ET SEQ., AS A RESULT OF AN UNFAIR LABOR PRACTICE CHARGE FILED SEPTEMBER 23, 1980, WITH THE FEDERAL LABOR RELATIONS AUTHORITY. CONSEQUENTLY, ON NOVEMBER 25, 1980, THE REGIONAL DIRECTOR, REGION 5, OF THE AUTHORITY, ISSUED A COMPLAINT ALLEGING THAT RESPONDENT UNLAWFULLY REFUSED THE REQUEST OF NINA M. PIERCE THAT SHE BE REPRESENTED BY THE UNION AT EXAMINATION AND COUNSELING SESSIONS ON OR ABOUT MARCH 24, APRIL 9, AND MAY 1, 1980. A HEARING WAS HELD ON JANUARY 14, 1981, IN DAYTON, OHIO. ALL PARTIES WERE AFFORDED FULL OPPORTUNITY TO BE HEARD, TO EXAMINE WITNESSES AND TO INTRODUCE EVIDENCE. POST-HEARING BRIEFS HAVE BEEN FILED AND CONSIDERED. UPON THE ENTIRE RECORD, INCLUDING MY OBSERVATION OF THE WITNESSES AND THEIR DEMEANOR, I MAKE THE FOLLOWING FINDINGS, CONCLUSIONS AND RECOMMENDATIONS. FINDINGS OF FACT THE CHARGING PARTY IS THE EXCLUSIVE REPRESENTATIVE OF AN APPROPRIATE UNIT OF EMPLOYEES AT THE FACILITIES OF RESPONDENT. THE PARTIES ARE SUBJECT TO THE MASTER LABOR AGREEMENT BETWEEN THE AIR FORCE LOGISTICS COMMAND AND THE AMERICAN FEDERATION OF GOVERNMENT EMPLOYEES, AFL-CIO, EXECUTED ON APRIL 3, 1979, AND IN EFFECT AT THE TIME THIS DISPUTE AROSE. NINA M. PIERCE IS A SECRETARY IN THE AIR FORCE INSTITUTE OF TECHNOLOGY, WRIGHT-PATTERSON AIR FORCE BASE. SHE HAS WORKED FOR THE AIR FORCE FOR APPROXIMATELY TWENTY-SIX YEARS. SINCE JUNE 1979, SHE HAS BEEN EXECUTIVE SECRETARY TO COL. LLOYD R. CHASON, DIRECTOR OF EDUCATIONAL PLANS AND OPERATIONS AND THE THIRD RANKING OFFICER OF THE INSTITUTE. COL. CHASON'S POSITION IS ROUGHLY EQUIVALENT IN THE CIVILIAN WORLD TO THAT OF VICE-PRESIDENT FOR ACADEMIC AFFAIRS. HE HOLDS A MASTERS DEGREE AND A PH.D. IN PSYCHOLOGY AND IS A BOARD CERTIFIED PSYCHOLOGIST. PRIOR TO WORKING FOR COL. CHASON, MS. PIERCE WORKED IN THE SCHOOL OF ENGINEERING WHERE, BECAUSE OF CERTAIN UNPLEASANT PERSONAL RELATIONSHIPS WHICH HAD DEVELOPED AND BECAUSE OF HER STATED FEAR FOR "HER PHYSICAL BEING," TRANSFERRED TO WHAT TURNED OUT TO BE COL. CHASON'S OFFICE. WITH A FEW MINOR EXCEPTIONS, HER RELATIONSHIPS IN HER NEW OFFICE WERE UNREMARKABLE UNTIL SHE SUFFERED A FALL ON SOME ICE WHICH OCCURRED IN DECEMBER OF 1979. AFTER A SIX WEEK RECUPERATION, SHE RETURNED TO WORK IN JANUARY OF 1980. COL. CHASON DESCRIBED HER UPON RETURN AS "AN ENTIRELY DIFFERENT PERSON". FOR THE NEXT TWO WEEKS OR SO, COL. CHASON FOUND HIS OFFICE TO BE IN A STATE OF DISRUPTION AND HE SAW A "REMARKABLE CHANGE IN HER JOB PERFORMANCE". IN ORDER TO GIVE HER TIME TO ADJUST TO HER NEW JOB AND LATER, TO RECOVER FROM HER TRAUMATIC INJURY, COL. CHASON DELAYED COUNSELING OF MS. PIERCE. HOWEVER, AFTER CONVENING A MEETING OF ALL THE SECRETARIES IN THE OFFICE DURING THE LAST WEEK OF JANUARY AND ASKING FOR THEIR FULL COOPERATION IN RETURNING THE OFFICE TO EFFICIENT ORDER, COL. CHASON DECIDED THAT BECAUSE OF THE COMPLAINTS OF SEVERAL OTHERS CONCERNING HER PERFORMANCE, HE WOULD ANNOTATE COMMENTS ON MS. PIERCE'S AIR FORCE FORM 971, "SUPERVISOR'S RECORD OF 'EMPLOYEE". AFTER DOING SO, HE CALLED HER INTO HIS OFFICE ON FEBRUARY 6 TO SHOW HER THE COMMENTS. /3/ MS. PIERCE DID NOT REQUEST UNION REPRESENTATION AT THIS MEETING ON FEBRUARY 6; HOWEVER, SHE MET A FEW DAYS LATER WITH BETTY JEAN CARROLL, A UNION VICE-PRESIDENT, WHO SHOWED HER ARTICLE 5 OF THE CONTRACT AND TOLD HER THAT IT WAS HER RIGHT TO HAVE A UNION REPRESENTATIVE AT ANY MEETING THAT SHE FELT WAS GOING TO LEAD TO DISCIPLINARY ACTION, THAT SHE MUST REQUEST THE REPRESENTATION AND THAT MANAGEMENT HAD NO RESPONSIBILITY TO OFFER IT. ON SEVERAL OCCASIONS AFTER THIS CONVERSATION, MS. PIERCE WOULD CALL MS. CARROLL TO TELL HER THAT SHE HAD ASKED FOR UNION REPRESENTATION BUT THAT IT HAD BEEN DENIED. MS. CARROLL WOULD THEN TELL MS. PIERCE THAT IF COL. CHASON ATTEMPTED TO ENGAGE HER IN CONVERSATION DURING THE MEETING, THEN SHE DID INDEED HAVE THE RIGHT TO UNION REPRESENTATION DURING SUCH A MEETING, PROVIDED MS. PIERCE BELIEVED THE MEETING WOULD LEAD TO DISCIPLINARY ACTION. ON MARCH 17, 1980, COL. CHASON GAVE MS. PIERCE HER ANNUAL PERFORMANCE APPRAISAL. SHE BECAME QUITE UPSET SINCE IT WAS THE WORST APPRAISAL THAT SHE HAD EVER RECEIVED. SHE STATED THAT HER UNION REPRESENTATIVE WAS REQUIRED TO BE PRESENT AND SHE THEN HURRIEDLY LEFT THE ROOM. /4/ THE "COUNSELING" SESSION ON MARCH 24, 1980, BECAME THE INITIAL FOCUS OF THE INSTANT COMPLAINT. COL. CHASON HAD CERTAIN ITEMS TYPED UP ON MS. PIERCE'S AF FORM 971 AND THEN CALLED HER INTO HIS OFFICE TO COUNSEL HER ON THOSE ITEMS. THE ITEMS ON THE AF FORM 971 PERTAINED TO DEFICIENCIES OBSERVED BY COL. CHASON HIMSELF. HE TOLD HER THAT HE WOULD ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS WHICH SHE MIGHT HAVE. /5/ SHE DISAGREED WITH THE NOTATIONS. COL. CHASON DID NOT ASK HER ANY QUESTIONS NOR DID HE SOLICIT ANY INFORMATION FROM HER. /6/ SHE DID NOT REQUEST UNION REPRESENTATION /7/ BUT SHE DID STATE AT THE END OF THE MEETING, "YOU WILL HEAR FROM MY UNION REPRESENTATIVE." ON APRIL 8, 1980, COL. CHASON WROTE A MEMORANDUM TO MS. PIERCE REQUESTING THAT SHE REPORT TO THE DEPARTMENT OF OCCUPATIONAL MEDICINE SERVICES FOR A MEDICAL INTERVIEW IN ORDER TO "ASSIST ME IN MY DETERMINATION AS TO WHETHER YOU CAN PERFORM YOUR JOB." MS. PIERCE RESPONDED THAT SHE WAS NOT SICK, DID NOT NEED AN EXAMINATION, AND HAD A NUMBER OF SICK DAYS SAVED UP. COL. CHASON HAD MORE NOTES TYPED UP ON THE FORM 971 JUST PRIOR TO THE APRIL 9 MEETING WITH MS. PIERCE. THEY BECAME THE SECOND SUBJECT OF THE COMPLAINT IN THIS MATTER. HE GAVE HER A COPY OF THE FORM 971, ASKED HER TO READ THE INFORMATION AND TOLD HER THAT IF SHE HAD ANY QUESTIONS, HE WOULD ANSWER THEM. HE DID NOT ASK HER ANY QUESTIONS BUT SHE VOLUNTEERED A VEHEMENT DENIAL OF ONE OF THE ITEMS ON THE FORM. COL. CHASON IN NO WAY RESTRICTED HER RIGHT TO MAKE STATEMENTS AND WAS OPEN TO WHATEVER INFORMATION SHE VOLUNTEERED. /8/ ON APRIL 22, 1980, COL. CHASON ASKED MS. PIERCE TO COME INTO HIS OFFICE TO DISCUSS AN INCIDENT ON APRIL 21 WHICH CONCERNED HER ABSENCE FROM HER DESK AND DOCUMENTATION OF TIME CARDS. AT THIS MEETING, COL. CHASON BEGAN TO ASK MS. PIERCE CERTAIN QUESTIONS ABOUT WHAT HAD TAKEN PLACE THE PREVIOUS DAY. SHE REQUESTED UNION REPRESENTATION AND COL. CHASON IMMEDIATELY TERMINATED THE INTERVIEW AND AGREED TO HAVE MS. PIERCE ARRANGE FOR MS. CARROLL'S PRESENCE AT A LATER TIME. ALTHOUGH COL. CHASON HAD PREVIOUSLY ARRANGED FOR MS. CARROLL'S PRESENCE AT A MEETING ON MS. PIERCE'S GRIEVANCE, HE FOR SOME REASON, LEFT IT THIS TIME TO MS. PIERCE TO GET IN TOUCH WITH MS. CARROLL AND ARRANGE FOR HER RELEASE. THAT ARRANGEMENT WAS NEVER MADE. ON MAY 1, 1980, COL. CHASON CALLED MS. PIERCE INTO HIS OFFICE FOR A CONTINUATION OF THE APRIL 22 MEETING AND TO SHOW HER FURTHER NOTATIONS ON HER FORM 971. IN A MEMO FOR RECORD, DATED MAY 1, 1980, COL. CHASON REFERRED TO MS. PIERCE'S APRIL 22 REQUEST FOR UNION REPRESENTATION AND NOTED, "I HAVE WAITED UNTIL TODAY FOR THE MEETING AND COULD WAIT NO LONGER TO BRING HER COUNSELING UP TO DATE. I LEARNED TODAY THAT SHE MADE NO ATTEMPT TO SCHEDULE THE MEETING WITH A UNION REPRESENTATIVE." COL. CHASON ASKED HER TO READ THE ENTRIES AND OFFERED TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS SHE MIGHT HAVE. AFTER LOOKING OVER THE ENTRIES, SHE COMMENTED ON HIS ATTITUDE TOWARDS HER. HE DID NOT ASK FOR ANY DEFENSE TO THE NOTATIONS ON THE FORM, NOR DID HE SOLICIT ANY INFORMATION FROM HER. SHE DID NOT REITERATE HER REQUEST FOR UNION REPRESENTATION. /9/ IN THE MONTHS FOLLOWING, MS. PIERCE WAS TWICE REQUESTED AND ONCE ORDERED TO UNDERGO A FITNESS-FOR-DUTY EXAMINATION. HER REFUSAL TO COMPLY RESULTED IN A REPRIMAND ON JULY 14, 1980, AND A FIVE-DAY SUSPENSION ON DECEMBER 17, 1980. CONCLUSIONS THE INITIAL QUESTION IN THIS CASE IS WHETHER THE MEETINGS BETWEEN MS. PIERCE AND COL. CHASON ON MARCH 24, APRIL 9, AND MAY 1, 1980, WERE EXAMINATIONS IN CONNECTION WITH AN INVESTIGATION WITHIN THE MEANING OF 5 U.S.C. 7114(A)(2)(B). THAT SECTION PROVIDES, IN PERTINENT PART: AN EXCLUSIVE REPRESENTATIVE OF AN APPROPRIATE UNIT IN AN AGENCY SHALL BE GIVEN THE OPPORTUNITY TO BE REPRESENTED AT . . . ANY EXAMINATION OF AN EMPLOYEE IN THE UNIT BY A REPRESENTATIVE OF THE AGENCY IN CONNECTION WITH AN INVESTIGATION IF-- (I) THE EMPLOYEE REASONABLY BELIEVES THAT THE EXAMINATION MAY RESULT IN DISCIPLINARY ACTION AGAINST THE EMPLOYEE; AND (II) THE EMPLOYEE REQUESTS REPRESENTATION. THE LEGISLATIVE HISTORY OF THIS SECTION, WHICH IS PART OF TITLE VII OF THE CIVIL SERVICE REFORM ACT OF 1978, CLEARLY DEMONSTRATES THAT ITS PURPOSE WAS TO BRING TO FEDERAL SECTOR EMPLOYEES THOSE RIGHTS ACCORDED TO PRIVATE SECTOR EMPLOYEES BY THE NATIONAL LABOR RELATIONS ACT AND THE DECISION OF THE UNITED STATES SUPREME COURT IN NLRB V. J. WEINGARTEN, INC., 420 U.S. 251; 95 S.CT. 959; 88 LRRM 2689(1975). /10/ IN WEINGARTEN THE SUPREME COURT HELD THAT UNDER THE TAFT-HARTLEY ACT, AN EMPLOYEE HAS A RIGHT TO UNION REPRESENTATION AT AN INVESTIGATORY INTERVIEW WHEN THE EMPLOYEE REASONABLY BELIEVES THAT THE INVESTIGATION WILL RESULT IN DISCIPLINARY ACTION AND WHEN THE EMPLOYEE REQUESTS THAT A UNION REPRESENTATIVE BE PRESENT. THE HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES VERSION OF THE CIVIL SERVICE REFORM ACT WAS H.R. 11280. IN REFERRING TO THE LANGUAGE OF H.R. 11280 AS REPORTED, AND NOT SPECIFICALLY TO THE LANGUAGE OF THE "UDALL SUBSTITUTE" AS PASSED, THE COMMITTEE REPORT EXPLAINED THE PROVISIONS OF SECTION 7114 AS FOLLOWS: . . . IT (THE EXCLUSIVE REPRESENTATIVE) HAS THE RIGHT TO BE GIVEN THE OPPORTUNITY TO BE REPRESENTED AT . . . (2) ANY DISCUSSION BETWEEN AN EMPLOYEE AND AN AGENCY REPRESENTATIVE IF THE EMPLOYEE REASONABLY BELIEVES HE MAY BE THE SUBJECT OF A DISCIPLINARY ACTION (WHEN AN EMPLOYEE IS INTERVIEWED BY A SUPERVISOR CONCERNING ALLEGED ABUSE OF LEAVE OR INTERROGATED BY THE AGENCY'S INTERNAL SECURITY DIVISION CONCERNING ALLEGED IRREGULARITIES IN A TRAVEL VOUCHER) . . . /11/ THE SENATE VERSION, S. 2640, CONTAINED NO COMPARABLE PROVISION AS THAT VERSION SOUGHT TO CODIFY THE PROVISIONS OF EXECUTIVE ORDER 11491 WHICH CONTAINED NO COMPARABLE RIGHT. /12/ THE CONFERENCE COMMITTEE OF THE HOUSE AND THE SENATE ALTERED THE PROVISION IN TWO RESPECTS. FIRST, THE REQUIREMENT THAT THE EMPLOYEE BE NOTIFIED PRIOR TO CERTAIN INVESTIGATORY INTERVIEWS OF THE RIGHT TO REPRESENTATION WAS CHANGED SO THAT EMPLOYEES WOULD BE NOTIFIED OF THAT RIGHT BY THE AGENCY ONLY ONCE A YEAR. SECOND, THE CONFEREES AMENDED THE PROVISION TO GIVE THE LABOR REPRESENTATIVE THE RIGHT TO AMEND THE PROVISION TO GIVE THE LABOR REPRESENTATIVE THE RIGHT TO BE PRESENT AT "ANY EXAMINATION OF AN EMPLOYEE . . . IN CONNECTION WITH AN INVESTIGATION . . . " RATHER THAN THE RIGHT TO BE PRESENT AT "ANY INVESTIGATORY INTERVIEW". THE REPORT DID NOT SEEK TO REPUDIATE THE WEINGARTEN RATIONALE FOR THE PROVISION, AND IT WAS SILENT AS TO THE REASON IT SUBSTITUTED THE WORDS "EXAMINATION . . . IN CONNECTION WITH AN INVESTIGATION" FOR "INVESTIGATORY INTERVIEW". THE REPORT SAID ONLY THAT THE "CONFEREES RECOGNIZE THAT THE RIGHT TO REPRESENTATION IN EXAMINATIONS MAY EVOLVE DIFFERENTLY IN THE PRIVATE AND FEDERAL SECTORS, AND SPECIFICALLY INTEND THAT FUTURE COURT DECISIONS INTERPRETING THE RIGHT IN THE PRIVATE SECTOR WILL NOT NECESSARILY BE DETERMINATIVE FOR THE FEDERAL SECTOR." /13/ IN VIEW OF THE FACT THAT THE SENATE VERSION DID NOT CONTAIN A PROVISION FOR REPRESENTATION RIGHTS, IT WOULD APPEAR THAT THE CONFEREES WERE AGREEING TO PROVIDE NO MORE TO FEDERAL SECTOR EMPLOYEES THAN WAS PROVIDED TO THOSE IN THE PRIVATE SECTOR UNDER WEINGARTEN AND, THAT SHOULD THOSE PRIVATE SECTOR RIGHTS BE BROADENED BY JUDICIAL DECISION, THEY WOULD NOT NECESSARILY BE BROADENED EQUALLY IN THE FEDERAL SECTOR. /14/ REGARDLESS OF THE SIGNIFICANCE ONE MAY ATTACH TO THE APPEARANCE OF THE WORD "EXAMINATION" IN THIS PROVISION OF THE STATUTE, THE RIGHT TO REPRESENTATION IS DEPENDENT UPON THE EXISTENCE OF AN "INVESTIGATION". THIS IS WHAT WEINGARTEN WAS ALL ABOUT. THE EMPLOYEE IN THAT CASE WAS INTERROGATED IN ORDER TO DETERMINE WHETHER SHE HAD PAID THE FULL PRICE FOR THE AMOUNT OF CHICKEN SHE HAD PURCHASED. THE SUPREME COURT STATED: A SINGLE EMPLOYEE CONFRONTED BY AN EMPLOYER INVESTIGATING WHETHER CERTAIN CONDUCT DESERVES DISCIPLINE MAY BE TOO FEARFUL OR INARTICULATE TO RELATE ACCURATELY THE INCIDENT BEING INVESTIGATED, OR TOO IGNORANT TO RAISE EXTENUATING FACTORS. A KNOWLEDGEABLE UNION REPRESENTATIVE COULD ASSIST THE EMPLOYER BY ELICITING FAVORABLE FACTS, AND SAVE THE EMPLOYER PRODUCTION TIME BY GETTING TO THE BOTTOM OF THE INCIDENT OCCASIONING THE INTERVIEW. /15/ INDEED, RIGHT IN SECTION 7114 CONGRESS RECOGNIZED THE DISTINCTION BETWEEN AN INVESTIGATORY PROCEEDING AND A MEETING WITH AN EMPLOYEE FOR OTHER PURPOSES. SECTION 7114(A)(2)(A) GIVES AN EXCLUSIVE REPRESENTATIVE THE RIGHT TO BE PRESENT AT "ANY FORMAL DISCUSSION BETWEEN ONE OR MORE REPRESENTATIVES OF THE AGENCY AND ONE OR MORE EMPLOYEES IN THE UNIT OR THEIR REPRESENTATIVES CONCERNING ANY GRIEVANCE OR ANY PERSONNEL POLICY OR PRACTICES OR OTHER GENERAL CONDITIONS OF EMPLOYMENT." REPRESENTATIVE CLAY, WHO INTRODUCED FOR HIMSELF AND REPRESENTATIVE FORD THE FORERUNNER OF TITLE VII, COMMENTED ON SECTION 7114(A)(2)(A) AS FOLLOWS: IN THE UDALL SUBSTITUTE THE WORD "FORMAL" WAS INSERTED BEFORE "DISCUSSIONS" IN ORDER TO MAKE CLEAR THE INTENTION THAT THIS SUBSECTION DOES NOT REQUIRE THAT AN EXCLUSIVE REPRESENTATIVE BE PRESENT DURING HIGHLY PERSONAL, INFORMAL MEETINGS SUCH AS COUNSELING SESSIONS-- UNLESS COVERED BY SUBSECTION (7114(A)(2)(B)). /16/ WHAT REPRESENTATIVE CLAY RECOGNIZED WAS THAT CERTAIN INFORMAL COUNSELING IS NOT INVESTIGATORY, BUT THAT SHOULD EVEN AN INFORMAL COUNSELING SESSION BECOME INVESTIGATORY, WEINGARTEN RIGHTS ATTACH. THE COURTS HAVE ALSO RECOGNIZED THAT IT IS NOT SOLELY THE PROSPECT OF DISCIPLINE WHICH GIVES RISE TO THE REPRESENTATIONAL RIGHT, BUT RATHER IT IS THE PRESENCE OF THE INVESTIGATORY ELEMENT. /17/ NLRB CASES SINCE WEINGARTEN HAVE ABANDONED ANY DISTINCTION BASED ON THE LABELLING OF AN INTERVIEW AS INVESTIGATORY OR DISCIPLINARY /18/ AND HAVE FOCUSED ON WHETHER THE EMPLOYER HAS REACHED A FINAL DECISION ON ANY ACTION TO BE TAKEN AND IS MERELY INFORMING THE EMPLOYEE OF THAT DECISION. /19/ THE LINE DRAWN BY REPRESENTATIVE CLAY WAS SIMILARLY RECOGNIZED BY THE NLRB IN BATON ROUGE WATER WORKS /20/ AS FOLLOWS: IF THE EMPLOYER ENGAGED IN ANY CONDUCT BEYOND MERELY INFORMING THE EMPLOYEE OF A PREVIOUSLY MADE DISCIPLINARY DECISION, THE FULL PANOPLY OF PROTECTIONS ACCORDED THE EMPLOYEE UNDER WEINGARTEN MAY BE APPLICABLE. THUS, FOR EXAMPLE WERE THE EMPLOYER TO INFORM THE EMPLOYEE OF A DISCIPLINARY ACTION AND THEN SEEK FACTS OR EVIDENCE IN SUPPORT OF THAT ACTION, OR TO ATTEMPT TO HAVE THE EMPLOYEE ADMIT HIS ALLEGED WRONGDOING OR TO SIGN A STATEMENT TO THAT EFFECT, OR TO SIGN STATEMENTS RELATING TO SUCH MATTERS AS WORKMEN'S COMPENSATION . . . THE EMPLOYEE'S RIGHT TO UNION REPRESENTATION WOULD ATTACH. IN CONTRAST, THE FACT THAT THE EMPLOYER AND EMPLOYEE THEREAFTER ENGAGED IN A CONVERSATION AT THE EMPLOYEE'S BEHEST OR INSTIGATION CONCERNING THE REASONS FOR THE PREVIOUSLY DETERMINED DISCIPLINE WILL NOT, ALONE, CONVERT THE MEETING TO AN INTERVIEW AT WHICH THE WEINGARTEN PROTECTIONS APPLY. I CONCLUDE THAT UNDER THE STATUTE, THE RIGHT TO UNION REPRESENTATION DOES NOT EXTEND TO A COUNSELING SESSION WHICH IS NOT INVESTIGATIVE IN NATURE AND WHICH IS HELD TO INFORM THE EMPLOYEE OF DEFICIENCIES IN WORK PERFORMANCE OR OF A PREVIOUSLY MADE DETERMINATION TO IMPOSE DISCIPLINE. EVEN THOUGH DEFICIENCIES IN WORK PERFORMANCE MAY ULTIMATELY RESULT IN SOME SORT OF DISCIPLINE, THE STATUTE RECOGNIZES THAT AN INFORMAL FORUM OUGHT TO BE AVAILABLE WHEREIN EMPLOYERS AND EMPLOYEES MAY REACH AN UNDERSTANDING OF WHAT IS EXPECTED FROM EACH OTHER WITHOUT HAVING TO RESORT TO CONFRONTATION, ON THE ONE HAND, OR "PINK SLIP" NOTIFICATION, ON THE OTHER. WHERE A DECISION TO DISCIPLINE HAS ALREADY BEEN MADE AND THE EMPLOYER IS NOT SEEKING TO GAIN INFORMATION FROM THE EMPLOYEE IN ORDER TO MAKE THAT DETERMINATION, THE EMPLOYEE DOES NOT NEED A REPRESENTATIVE TO "GET TO THE BOTTOM OF THE INCIDENT" OR TO "RAISE EXTENUATING FACTORS" BECAUSE, UNDER THESE CIRCUMSTANCES, THE EMPLOYER HAS MADE ITS FINDINGS OF FACT AND HAS COME TO ITS CONCLUSION AS TO THE ACTION IT WISHES TO TAKE. TURNING TO THE FACTS OF THIS CASE, IT IS CLEAR THAT THE COUNSELING SESSIONS ON MARCH 24 AND APRIL 9, 1980 WERE NOT THE TYPE TO WHICH THE RIGHT OF REPRESENTATION ATTACHES. THE PURPOSE OF EACH OF THESE SESSIONS WAS TO INFORM MS. PIERCE OF THE NOTATIONS WHICH HAD ALREADY BEEN MADE ON THE FORM 971. AT NEITHER SESSION DID COL. CHASON ASK ANY QUESTIONS OF MS. PIERCE OR, IN ANY OTHER MANNER, SOLICIT INFORMATION. THE FACT THAT SHE VOLUNTEERED A DENIAL OF ONE ITEM AT THE APRIL 9 SESSION IS OF NO MOMENT. COL. CHASON HAD MADE UP HIS MIND TO DOCUMENT THE 971 AND CALLED THE MEETING WITH THE FIRM INTENTION NOT TO ALTER THAT WHICH HE HAD WRITTEN PRIOR TO THE MEETING. THE MEETING ON MAY 1, 1980, HOWEVER, IS A DIFFERENT MATTER. THAT MEETING HAD ITS GENESIS IN THE APRIL 22 MEETING AT WHICH COL. CHASON SOUGHT TO DETERMINE THE FACTS OF WHAT HAD TAKEN PLACE ON APRIL 21 REGARDING TIME CARDS. THE MAY 1 MEETING WAS A CONTINUATION OF THE APRIL 22 MEETING WHICH HAD BEEN INTERRUPTED FOR THE PURPOSE OF ALLOWING MS. PIERCE TO ARRANGE TO HAVE HER UNION REPRESENTATIVE PRESENT. ALTHOUGH IT IS NOT CLEAR WHETHER COL. CHASON ACTUALLY CONTINUED TO QUESTION MS. PIERCE ON THE SAME SUBJECTS WHICH HAD BEEN COVERED AT THE APRIL 22 MEETING, HIS MEMORANDUM TO THE RECORD OF MAY 1 REVEALS THAT HE DID INQUIRE INTO HER INTENT TO ATTEND A MEDICAL INTERVIEW. IN ANY EVENT, SINCE THE MAY 1 MEETING WAS CALLED TO CONTINUE THE PRIOR INTERROGATION, WHICH EVEN COL. CHASON APPARENTLY RECOGNIZED WAS SUBJECT TO THE RIGHT OF UNION REPRESENTATION, THE RIGHT TO UNION REPRESENTATION ATTACHED TO THE CONTINUED MEETING ON MAY 1. THE NEXT QUESTION TO BE RESOLVED IS WHETHER MS. PIERCE REASONABLY BELIEVED THAT THE MAY 1 MEETING MIGHT RESULT IN DISCIPLINARY ACTION AGAINST HER. THE STANDARD TO BE APPLIED IS AN OBJECTIVE ONE, FOCUSSING ON THE SURROUNDING CIRCUMSTANCES RATHER THAN THE EMPLOYEE'S SUBJECTIVE STATE OF MIND. /21/ THE KEY OBJECTIVE FACT IN THIS CASE IS THAT COL. CHASON'S INQUIRY CONCERNED THE PROPRIETY OF MS. PIERCE'S ABSENCE FROM HER DUTY STATION ON APRIL 21. SINCE MS. PIERCE HAD NOT REQUESTED HIS PERMISSION FOR THAT ABSENCE, HE CALLED THE CIVILIAN PERSONNEL OFFICE TO ASK THEM WHETHER AT LEAST COURTESY REQUIRED THAT SHE INFORM HIM THAT SHE WOULD BE AWAY FROM HER DESK FOR A PROTRACTED PERIOD OF TIME. THAT OFFICE REPLIED IN THE AFFIRMATIVE. THEREFORE, HE CALLED HER INTO HIS OFFICE TO ASK HER WHAT HAD TRANSPIRED ON THE TWENTY-FIRST. HE WAS "NOT SURE OF WHAT (HE) NEEDED TO WRITE DOWN IN THE 971" AND HE TOLD HER THAT SHE SHOULD TELL HIM WHEN SHE WAS GOING TO LEAVE HER DUTY STATION AND THAT "IT IS EVEN CORRECT FOR YOU TO ASK MY PERMISSION TO DO SO, OTHERWISE YOU ARE ABSENT WITHOUT MY PERMISSION FROM YOUR DUTY STATION." AT THIS POINT, MS. PIERCE BECAME VERY UPSET AND REQUESTED UNION REPRESENTATION. COL. CHASON IMMEDIATELY TERMINATED THE INTERVIEW SO THAT SHE COULD OBTAIN THAT REPRESENTATION. OBVIOUSLY BOTH COL. CHASON AND MS. PIERCE KNEW THAT ABSENCE WITHOUT LEAVE WAS AN INFRACTION OF RESPONDENT'S RULES OF CONDUCT AND COULD LEAD TO DISCIPLINARY ACTION. COL. CHASON KNEW THAT HE MUST TERMINATE THE INTERVIEW IMMEDIATELY SINCE HIS INQUIRIES TOOK IT OUT OF THE PURVIEW OF A NONDISCIPLINARY COUNSELING SESSION. /22/ UNDER THESE CIRCUMSTANCES, MS. PIERCE MIGHT REASONABLY BELIEVE THAT IF SHE WERE FOUND TO BE ABSENT WITHOUT LEAVE FROM HER DUTY STATION, DISCIPLINARY ACTION MIGHT BE TAKEN AGAINST HER. /23/ SINCE THIS WAS A REASONABLE BELIEF ON APRIL 22, AND SINCE THE MAY 1 MEETING WAS A CONTINUATION OF THAT MEETING, MS. PIERCE MIGHT REASONABLY BELIEVE THAT DISCIPLINE WOULD RESULT FROM THE MAY 1 MEETING. THE LAST QUESTION TO BE RESOLVED IS WHETHER MS. PIERCE REQUESTED UNION REPRESENTATION AT THE MAY 1, 1980 MEETING. WHILE I HAVE FOUND, AS A MATTER OF FACT, THAT SHE DID NOT MAKE A FURTHER REQUEST FOR UNION REPRESENTATION ON MAY 1, I CONCLUDE, AS A MATTER OF LAW, THAT HER REQUEST FOR UNION REPRESENTATION WHICH SHE MADE ON APRIL 22 WAS A CONTINUING REQUEST BECAUSE THE MEETING ON MAY 1 WAS A CONTINUATION OF THE APRIL 22 MEETING. BEFORE THAT MEETING WAS IN FACT CONTINUED, RESPONDENT WAS BOUND TO HONOR HER ORIGINAL REQUEST FOR REPRESENTATION UNLESS SHE VOLUNTARILY WITHDREW THAT REQUEST PRIOR TO THE CONTINUED MEETING. THERE IS NO EVIDENCE ON THIS RECORD THAT SHE WITHDREW HER REQUEST FOR REPRESENTATION AT ANY TIME. ACCORDINGLY, I CONCLUDE THAT ONLY THE MEETING BETWEEN MS. PIERCE AND COL. CHASON ON MAY 1, 1980, WAS AN EXAMINATION IN CONNECTION WITH AN INVESTIGATION WITHIN THE MEANING OF 5 U.S.C. 7114(A)(2)(B); THAT MS. PIERCE REASONABLY BELIEVED THAT THAT MEETING MIGHT RESULT IN DISCIPLINARY ACTION AGAINST HER; THAT SHE REQUESTED REPRESENTATION AT THAT MEETING; THAT HER REQUEST FOR REPRESENTATION WAS DENIED; AND THAT THE FAILURE TO GRANT HER REQUEST FOR REPRESENTATION CONSTITUTED A VIOLATION OF 5 U.S.C. 7116(A)(1) AND (8). THEREFORE, I RECOMMEND THAT THE AUTHORITY ISSUE THE FOLLOWING ORDER: ORDER PURSUANT TO SECTION 7118(A)(7)(A) OF THE FEDERAL SERVICE LABOR-MANAGEMENT RELATIONS STATUTE, 5 U.S.C. 7118(A)(7)(A), AND SECTION 2423.29(B)(1) OF THE RULES AND REGULATIONS, 5 C.F.R. 2423.29(B)(1), THE AUTHORITY ORDERS (A) THAT THE COMPLAINT, INSOFAR AS IT ALLEGES A VIOLATION OF THE STATUTE ON MARCH 24 AND APRIL 9, 1980, IS DISMISSED; AND (B) THAT THE UNITED STATES AIR FORCE, 2750TH AIR BASE WING HEADQUARTERS, AIR FORCE LOGISTICS COMMAND, WRIGHT-PATTERSON AIR FORCE BASE, OHIO, SHALL: 1. CEASE AND DESIST FROM: (A) REQUIRING MS. NINA M. PIERCE TO TAKE PART IN ANY EXAMINATION IN CONNECTION WITH AN INVESTIGATION WITHOUT UNION REPRESENTATION IF SHE REASONABLY BELIEVES THAT THE EXAMINATION MAY RESULT IN DISCIPLINARY ACTION AGAINST HER AND IF SHE REQUESTS SUCH REPRESENTATION. (B) IN ANY LIKE OR RELATED MANNER INTERFERING WITH, RESTRAINING, OR COERCING EMPLOYEES IN THE EXERCISE OF THEIR RIGHTS ASSURED BY THE FEDERAL SERVICE LABOR-MANAGEMENT RELATIONS STATUTE. 2. TAKE THE FOLLOWING AFFIRMATIVE ACTION IN ORDER TO EFFECTUATE THE PURPOSE AND POLICIES OF THE STATUTE: (A) EXPUNGE FROM MS. PIERCE'S AIR FORCE FORM 971 ALL ENTRIES CONCERNING MEETINGS WITH COL. LLOYD R. CHASON WHICH TOOK PLACE ON APRIL 22 AND MAY 1, 1980. (B) POST AT ITS FACILITIES COPIES OF THE ATTACHED NOTICE MARKED "APPENDIX" ON FORMS TO BE FURNISHED BY THE FEDERAL LABOR RELATIONS AUTHORITY. UPON RECEIPT OF SUCH FORMS THEY SHALL BE SIGNED BY THE COMMANDER OF THE AIR FORCE LOGISTICS COMMAND AND SHALL BE POSTED AND MAINTAINED FOR 60 CONSECUTIVE DAYS THEREAFTER IN CONSPICUOUS PLACES, INCLUDING ALL BULLETIN BOARDS AND OTHER PLACES WHERE NOTICES ARE CUSTOMARILY POSTED. REASONABLE STEPS SHALL BE TAKEN TO ENSURE THAT THE NOTICES ARE NOT ALTERED, DEFACED OR COVERED BY ANY OTHER MATERIAL. (C) NOTIFY THE FEDERAL LABOR RELATIONS AUTHORITY IN WRITING WITHIN 30 DAYS FROM THE DATE OF THIS ORDER AS TO WHAT STEPS HAVE BEEN TAKEN TO COMPLY WITH THE ORDER. ALAN W. HEIFETZ ADMINISTRATIVE LAW JUDGE DATED: APRIL 6, 1981 WASHINGTON, D.C. APPENDIX NOTICE TO ALL EMPLOYEES PURSUANT TO A DECISION AND ORDER OF THE FEDERAL LABOR RELATIONS AUTHORITY AND IN ORDER TO EFFECTUATE THE POLICIES OF CHAPTER 71 OF TITLE 5 OF THE UNITED STATES CODE FEDERAL SERVICE LABOR-MANAGEMENT RELATIONS WE HEREBY NOTIFY OUR EMPLOYEES THAT: WE WILL NOT REQUIRE MS. NINA M. PIERCE TO TAKE PART IN ANY EXAMINATION IN CONNECTION WITH AN INVESTIGATION WITHOUT UNION REPRESENTATION IF SHE REASONABLY BELIEVES THAT THE EXAMINATION MAY RESULT IN DISCIPLINARY ACTION AGAINST HER AND IF SHE REQUESTS SUCH REPRESENTATION. WE WILL NOT, IN ANY LIKE OR RELATED MANNER, INTERFERE WITH, RESTRAIN OR COERCE OUR EMPLOYEES IN THE EXERCISE OF THEIR RIGHTS ASSURED BY THE STATUTE. (AGENCY OR ACTIVITY) DATED: . . . BY: . . . (SIGNATURE) THIS NOTICE MUST REMAIN POSTED FOR 60 CONSECUTIVE DAYS FROM THE DATE OF POSTING AND MUST NOT BE ALTERED, DEFACED OR COVERED BY ANY OTHER MATERIAL. IF EMPLOYEES HAVE ANY QUESTIONS CONCERNING THIS NOTICE OR COMPLIANCE WITH ANY OF ITS PROVISIONS, THEY MAY COMMUNICATE DIRECTLY WITH THE REGIONAL DIRECTOR OF THE FEDERAL LABOR RELATIONS AUTHORITY, REGION 5, SUITE A-1359, W. JACKSON BOULEVARD, CHICAGO, ILLINOIS, 60604. --------------- FOOTNOTES$ --------------- /1/ SECTION 7114(A)(2)(B) OF THE STATUTE PROVIDES: SEC. 7114. REPRESENTATION RIGHTS AND DUTIES . . . . (2) AN EXCLUSIVE REPRESENTATIVE OF AN APPROPRIATE UNIT IN AN AGENCY SHALL BE GIVEN THE OPPORTUNITY TO BE REPRESENTED AT-- . . . . (B) ANY EXAMINATION OF AN EMPLOYEE IN THE UNIT BY A REPRESENTATIVE OF THE AGENCY IN CONNECTION WITH AN INVESTIGATION IF-- (I) THE EMPLOYEE REASONABLY BELIEVES THAT THE EXAMINATION MAY RESULT IN DISCIPLINARY ACTION AGAINST THE EMPLOYEE; AND (II) THE EMPLOYEE REQUESTS REPRESENTATION. /2/ SECTION 7116(A)(1) AND (8) PROVIDES: SEC. 7116. UNFAIR LABOR PRACTICES (A) FOR THE PURPOSE OF THIS CHAPTER, IT SHALL BE AN UNFAIR LABOR PRACTICE FOR AN AGENCY-- (1) TO INTERFERE WITH, RESTRAIN, OR COERCE ANY EMPLOYEE IN THE EXERCISE BY THE EMPLOYEE OF ANY RIGHT UNDER THIS CHAPTER; . . . . (8) TO OTHERWISE FAIL OR REFUSE TO COMPLY WITH ANY PROVISION OF THIS CHAPTER(.) /3/ ITEMS INCLUDED "LACK OF COOPERATION WITH OTHER SECRETARIES AND OFFICERS; DISRUPTIVE BEHAVIOR AT WORK; MOODINESS; LACK OF PROFESSIONAL DEMEANOR; LACK OF IDENTIFICATION WITH ORGANIZATION; HER DESIRE TO CHANGE JOBS/ORGANIZATIONS". ALTHOUGH MS. PIERCE WOULD CONNECT THIS FEBRUARY 6 COUNSELING SESSION WITH HER VISIT THE IMMEDIATELY PRECEDING DAY WITH THE INSPECTOR GENERAL SEEKING TO REGAIN HER OLD JOB, I DO NOT FIND ANY EVIDENCE IN THE RECORD THAT COL. CHASON KNEW THEN OF HER MEETING WITH THE INSPECTOR GENERAL. /4/ THE APPRAISAL LED TO A GRIEVANCE FILED BY MS. CARROLL ON MS. PIERCE'S BEHALF. MS. CARROLL EXPLAINED TO COL. CHASON WHAT PROCEDURES WERE NECESSARY FOR HIM TO IMPLEMENT IN ORDER TO GET MS. CARROLL RELEASED FOR UNION ACTIVITY. /5/ IN GENERAL, IT WAS ALSO COL. CHASON'S PRACTICE TO "CLEAR UP ANY MISUNDERSTANDINGS" AT THESE MEETINGS. THE RECORD DOES NOT CONCLUSIVELY SHOW WHETHER THAT PRACTICE OBTAINED AT THIS PARTICULAR MEETING. /6/ ALTHOUGH MS. PIERCE WAS DESCRIBED AS ARGUMENTATIVE ON CERTAIN OCCASIONS, SPECIFIC EVIDENCE OF AN ARGUMENT AT THIS SESSION IS WANTING. /7/ ALTHOUGH I FIND THAT SHE DID CALL MS. CARROLL AND TOLD HER THAT SHE DID ASK FOR UNION REPRESENTATION AND WAS DENIED IT, I CREDIT COL. CHASON'S TESTIMONY THAT SHE DID NOT, IN FACT, MAKE THE REQUEST AT THIS MEETING. ALTHOUGH MS. PIERCE MAY HAVE BEEN, AS COUNSEL FOR THE GENERAL COUNSEL NOTICES, VISIBLY NERVOUS AND FRIGHTENED DURING HER TESTIMONY, I ALSO FIND THAT SHE WAS AT VARIOUS TIMES DETACHED, DISTRACTED, UNRESPONSIVE TO SPECIFIC QUESTIONING, AND CONFUSED AS TO FACTS. WHILE BITS OF COL. CHASON'S TESTIMONY WERE SEEMINGLY CONTRADICTED BY STATEMENTS PREVIOUSLY GIVEN TO AN AUTHORITY INVESTIGATOR, I ATTRIBUTE THE DISCREPANCIES TO THE FACT THAT THE INTERVIEW WITH THE INVESTIGATOR WAS DONE "COLD" AND THAT COL. CHASON WAS RESPONDING TO THE BEST OF HIS ABILITY AT THAT TIME. AT THE HEARING, HOWEVER, HE HAD HAD THE OPPORTUNITY TO REFRESH HIS RECOLLECTION FROM VARIOUS NOTES AND MEMORANDA AND HE WAS CERTAIN IN HIS TESTIMONY AS WELL AS CREDIBLE IN GIVING IT. /8/ I DO NOT CREDIT MS. PIERCE'S TESTIMONY THAT SHE REQUESTED UNION REPRESENTATION, GOT UP, WENT DOWN THE HALL TO MAKE A CALL, BUT WAS CALLED BY COL. CHASON SAYING THAT SHE WAS NOT ENTITLED TO REPRESENTATION. I DECLINE TO MAKE THAT FINDING BASED ON HER DEMEANOR, AS NOTED IN THE PRECEDING FOOTNOTE, AND BASED ON COL. CHASON'S TESTIMONY TO THE CONTRARY. THE NOTATIONS ON THE FORM 971 CORROBORATE HIS ASSERTION THAT HE DOCUMENTED ANY REQUEST FOR REPRESENTATION. ALTHOUGH HE STATED TO AN AUTHORITY INVESTIGATOR THAT HE COULD NOT RECALL WHETHER MS. PIERCE ASKED FOR UNION REPRESENTATION FOR THIS MEETING, I DO NOT FIND THAT STATEMENT TO CONTRADICT HIS TESTIMONY AT THE HEARING THAT SHE, IN FACT, DID NOT MAKE THE REQUEST. AS NOTED IN THE PRECEDING FOOTNOTE, THE INTERVIEW WITH THE AUTHORITY AGENT WAS DONE "COLD" AND ONLY SHOWS THAT AT THE PARTICULAR TIME OF THE INTERVIEW, COL. CHASON COULD NOT RECALL WHETHER ANY REQUEST FOR REPRESENTATION HAD BEEN MADE. I DO NOT DOUBT THAT SHE TOLD MS. CARROLL THAT SHE ASKED FOR REPRESENTATION. /9/ AGAIN, AS NOTED IN FOOTNOTES 7 AND 8, I CREDIT COL. CHASON'S VERSION OF THE FACTS ALTHOUGH I DO NOT DOUBT THAT MS. PIERCE TOLD MS. CARROLL THAT SHE DID ASK FOR REPRESENTATION. I BELIEVE THAT AFTER THE SEVERAL CONVERSATIONS MS. PIERCE HAD WITH MS. CARROLL, MS. PIERCE BELIEVES THAT SHE MADE A PRACTICE OF ASKING FOR UNION REPRESENTATION AT EACH MEETING SHE HAD WITH COL. CHASON. HOWEVER, ALTHOUGH SHE DID, ON SEVERAL OCCASIONS END SUCH MEETINGS WITH THE PROMISE THAT COL. CHASON WOULD HEAR FROM HER UNION REPRESENTATIVE, SHE COULD NOT SPECIFICALLY STATE AS TO ANY PARTICULAR MEETING THAT SHE MADE A REQUEST FOR REPRESENTATION. I DO NOTE THAT ON SOME OCCASIONS SHE WALKED OUT OF MEETINGS WHEN SHE DID NOT HAVE A REPRESENTATIVE AND SHE THOUGHT SHE WAS ENTITLED TO ONE. SHE WAS NOT ASKED WHY SHE DID NOT WALK OUT OF THE MEETINGS AT ISSUE IF SHE WERE CERTAIN THAT SHE HAD A RIGHT TO A REPRESENTATIVE. /10/ ALL REFERENCES TO THE "LEGISLATIVE HISTORY" ARE TO LEGISLATIVE HISTORY OF THE FEDERAL SERVICE LABOR-MANAGEMENT RELATIONS STATUTE, TITLE VII OF THE CIVIL SERVICE REFORM ACT OF 1978, COMMITTEE PRINT NO. 96-97, COMMITTEE ON POST OFFICE AND CIVIL SERVICE, HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES 96TH CONG., 1ST SESS., NOVEMBER 19, 1979. THE "UDALL SUBSTITUTE", ADOPTED BY THE HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES, WAS THE SOURCE OF WHAT EVENTUALLY BECAME TITLE VII. CONGRESSMAN UDALL SUBMITTED A SECTION BY SECTION ANALYSIS OF HIS SUBSTITUTE AND NOTED THAT ITS PROVISIONS DIFFERED FROM WEINGARTEN "ONLY IN PROVIDING THAT THE EMPLOYEE MUST BE INFORMED OF THE RIGHT OF REPRESENTATION PRIOR TO THE COMMENCEMENT OF ANY INVESTIGATORY INTERVIEW CONCERNING MISCONDUCT WHICH COULD REASONABLY LEAD TO SUSPENSION, REDUCTION IN GRADE OR PAY, OR REMOVAL." LEGISLATIVE HISTORY AT P. 926. /11/ HOUSE REPORT 95-1403, JULY 31, 1978, LEGISLATIVE HISTORY AT P. 694. /12/ LEGISLATIVE HISTORY, PP. 464-465, 520, 577. /13/ CONFERENCE REPORT, NO. 95-1717, OCTOBER 5, 1978; LEGISLATIVE HISTORY, P. 824. /14/ LITTLE WEIGHT CAN BE GIVEN TO GENERAL COUNSEL'S REFERENCE TO A POST-ENACTMENT STATEMENT BY CONGRESSMAN FORD THAT THE TERM "EXAMINATION" IS MUCH BROADER THAN "INVESTIGATORY INTERVIEW" AND WILL ENCOMPASS MORE SITUATIONS; THE STATEMENT WAS NOT CONSIDERED BY THE CONGRESS IN ITS DELIBERATIONS LEADING UP TO ENACTMENT. /15/ 420 U.S. AT 262-263. /16/ LEGISLATIVE HISTORY, P. 933. SEE ALSO, REPRESENTATIVE FORD'S STATEMENT TO THE SAME EFFECT BUT WHICH FURTHER MODIFIES THE WORDS "COUNSELING SESSIONS" BY THE ADDITION OF THE WORDS "REGARDING PERFORMANCE". LEGISLATIVE HISTORY, P. 957. /17/ ALFRED M. LEWIS, INC. V. NLRB, 99 LRRM 2841 (9TH CIR. 1978). THE COURT QUOTED ONE COMMENTATOR AS FOLLOWS" "IF THE MEETING IS DISCIPLINARY IN CHARACTER, BUT EXPLANATORY IN THE SENSE THAT THE EMPLOYEE IS ONLY TOLD WHAT THE EMPLOYER INTENDS TO DO AND DOES NOT CALL UPON THE EMPLOYEE TO DEFEND HIMSELF, NO REPRESENTATION NEED BE PROVIDED. ID. AT 2846. /18/ SEE, NLRB V. CERTIFIED GROCERS OF CALIFORNIA, 100 LRRM 3029 (9TH CIR. 1978), DENYING ENFORCEMENT OF 94 LRRM 1279(1977). /19/ SEE, MOUNT VERNON TANKER CO. V. NLRB, 549 F.2D 571; 94 LRRM 3054 (9TH CIR. 1977); BATON ROUGE WATER WORKS, 103 LRRM 1056(1979); TEXACO, 105 LRRM 1239(1980); SOUTHWESTERN BELL TEL., 105 LRRM 1246(1980). /20/ 103 LRRM AT 1058. /21/ INTERNAL REVENUE SERVICE, WASHINGTON, D.C. AND INTERNAL REVENUE SERVICE, HARTFORD DISTRICT OFFICE, 4 FLRA 37(1980). /22/ ARTICLE 5 OF THE COLLECTIVE BARGAINING AGREEMENT PROVIDES, IN PERTINENT PART: A. . . . DISCIPLINARY ACTION SHALL BE DEFINED AS ORAL ADMONISHMENT, WRITTEN REPRIMANDS AND SUSPENSIONS. * * * * C. NONDISCIPLINARY COUNSELING SESSIONS CONDUCTED BY SUPERVISORY AND/OR MANAGEMENT OFFICIALS WITH UNIT EMPLOYEES OR ENTRIES IN AIR FORCE FORM 971 RECORDING SUCH COUNSELING ARE NOT CONSIDERED DISCIPLINE . . . /23/ IN THE ABSENCE OF COL. CHASON'S INQUIRIES INTO THE FACTS TAKING PLACE ON APRIL 21, THE MEETINGS ON APRIL 22 AND MAY 1 WOULD NOT HAVE BEEN WITHIN THE AMBIT OF WEINGARTEN AND ITS PROGENCY. NOTWITHSTANDING COUNSEL FOR THE GENERAL COUNSEL'S ASSERTION THAT COL. CHASON WAS CONDUCTING AN INVESTIGATION INTO MS. PIERCE'S MENTAL WELL BEING, I FIND NOTHING IN THE RECORD TO SUPPORT THE PROPOSITION THAT THE MEETINGS ON APRIL 22 AND MAY 1 HAD ANYTHING TO DO WITH HIS DETERMINATION TO CONVINCE HER TO TAKE A FITNESS-FOR-DUTY EXAMINATION; TO THE CONTRARY, I FIND THAT HE HAD MADE THAT DETERMINATION LONG BEFORE THOSE TWO MEETINGS. THEREFORE, I NEED NOT CONSIDER MS. PIERCE'S OTHER REASONS FOR FEARING DISCIPLINE WHICH WERE NOT SPECIFICALLY CONCERNED WITH THE FACTORS WHICH BROUGHT THESE TWO MEETINGS WITHIN WEINGARTEN.